Time for a deeper more cerebral change

June 11th, 2009

I’m started to change the way I look at things, and I have been for a while.

I have changed the term ‘pickup artist’ to ‘human interactions practitioner’, and I was barraged by complaints by guys for saying this. Would be interesting to see how many girls they approached today.

So, I thought I’d make my point and give my reasons for this shift in thinking.

It’s very easy to conform by keeping your head below the parapet, and sticking with the same mental attitude we’ve had for years.

But, I’ve never conformed in the past, and I’m not about to start now.

I’ve been having a series of very deep conversations with a couple of my friends who are professional NLP practitioners, and doing some heavy fieldwork with them, and I guarantee you, their ability to connect with a woman is far higher than most people in this ‘community’. And I’ve ’sarged’ with a lot of guys in this community. It’s like comparing a kickabout in the park to club level football.

Why? Because they are in the field of human behaviour and influence. Keyword HUMAN. Not woman, no Approach Anxiety bullshit.

Just one human being intensely connecting with another on a cerebral level.

Think about it for a minute, approach anxiety, closing anxiety and all the other ‘invented’ setbacks are then gone, because instead of thinking about what you can get from the girl, you are thinking about what you can give her. I know people have tried to say this before but it all sounds kinda hollow if you’re approaching a ’set’ and trying to ‘pick her up’ before ‘closing her’. All element of selfishness is eliminated when one human is connecting with another human being, on equal, respectful terms.

I have spent well over a decade training in the martial arts at a very high level, meditation and recently rediscovered my passion for Kriya Yoga (no, it’s not lycra clad western women stretching and drinking herbal tea), which is the universal truth that we are all bound together with the same fabric. Oneness with yourself and the cosmos. How many people today are emotionally balanced? (look at the record stress levels, heart disease, cancer, financial greed in today’s society). How many people in today’s society are conscious? How many people have the vision to make a real change in their own lives and of their loved ones? How many people today are so in touch with their own minds and conscious awareness that they can even attempt to understand the deep compexities of another person’s mind?

We have to set the goal of self-actualisation, which very few people will ever achieve - compared to this universal truth, the word ‘pickup artist’ is an insult. We are all human beings, first and foremost, and we all have an element of the divinity within us - I intend on respecting that, and that includes women.

This kind of stuff is the grandfather of Tolle, in fact, light years beyond him. Who the hell is Eckhart Tolle? You can’t learn this from reading a book (sorry, Mr. Tolle). It takes years of practical experience of living through moments of fear discomfort, pain, tears, finally a sense of peace and presence. Or at least a knowledgeable mentor to guide you. Once you understand this, it will all become clear, but let me warn you, it takes years and years to ‘get it’. You have to engage every single cell in your being, despite your body, mind and spirit screaming in agony. Sorry if this is unpalatable, but it is the truth you will have to face up to. This is the stuff other ‘gurus’ will never tell you and cannot tell you, simply because they do not understand, let alone have the ability to teach it.

I want to raise the bar in this community and improve the social/mental/physical/psychological awareness of as many guys as I can. I also want to improve myself on many levels, and if any way of thinking is holding me back, I’m going to discard it.

In time you’ll see that the new ‘acronym’ or whatever you want to call it is far more apt than ‘pickup artist’. The more I hear that word, the more underground and sleazy it sounds. One word is not a big deal, but it’s a start in a shift in thinking.

Even a one degree turn on a ship will ultimately lead to an entirely new destination.

I do not wish to associate with ‘pickup’ any more, and if it sounds stupid to some people sitting behind a keyboard, then I think the price is worth paying in the long run.

Best wishes

IceDragon

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The Professional Players Club

November 12th, 2008

I have always got a real buzz from coaching the guys in the art of pick up and seduction but something was missing. Took a while to realise it had been too random and without real structure unless it was a scheduled bootcamp.

I then came up with the PPC (Professional Players Club) concept.

www.professionalplayersclub.com

Drawing from my experience teaching and sitting on grading panels in the martial arts, I had formulated a way to drastically improve the standard of [b]YOUR [/b]game.

Time and time again, my email inbox and mobile phone is bombarded with messages from guys saying ‘hey Ice, up for some daygame this week?’.

Sometimes I meet up with a guy, sometimes I don’t, depending on how busy I am or the mood I am in.

When I do meet someone, after the initial half-hour of approach anxiety, etc, we make some progress. Then I don’t see the guy again for months.
 The standard is back to square one. There is no consistency, and that is what pains me.

It hurts me when I see guys at the same standard now as they were 6 months ago.

It’s not their fault, in order to perfect a skill, be it the martial arts or the venusian arts, repeated practice is needed on a consistent, committed basis.

Ever heard the story of the hare and the tortoise? Well I want you to be the tortoise - ultimate winners.

Bootcamps are great - short bursts of intensity, but after they are over, then what? It’s like going to a martial arts seminar and expecting to be able to deliver the goods.

Wouldn’t it be great to have a Venusian Arts Club, like we have Martial Arts Clubs or Gym Memberships?

A weekly committment which we HAVE to fit into our schedule, come hell or high water.

So, I had decided to set up the ‘Professional Player’s Club’. Staff was a key player both in setting up the website and as an instructor.

The Professional Players Club concept

Why do students of martial arts improve and blast through their sticking points, throughout the world?What if they only trained once every 2 months? Would they make the same progress?

No of course they would not!

I proposed getting together a select group of committed and enthusiastic guys, who I would teach the game to for two hours per week, EVERY WEEK.

Make no mistake, they were pushed as hard, if not harder than I push my martial arts students. I have personally seen and taught beginners in the martial arts to a high level, I was expecting to see my first three black belts promoted in spring 2008.

I wanted you to gain your black belt in seduction.

Staff, Chance and I taught the guys as a normal class, starting with good warmup routines, repeated practice, correction, wash, rinse, repeat, until their body language, tonality and gestures were those of a professional pick up artist. The guys were monitored and given feedback, demonstrations were performed, similar to martial arts class.

Each week was progressive, and was in the students best interests to ensure adequate attendance. Most of the guys were regular attenders.

They were also give homework assignments to complete.

The program was developed to ensure you to push yourself, and force consistency plus continual and steady improvement.

The Professional Players Club ran successfully for several months but was too demanding on my time as in full time study, working part time etc. I had the framework of an e-book simmering away and realised that would be a more efficient way to share my knowledge and with a bigger audience. Real Attraction Secrets was underway……..

Neil Strauss talks about THE GAME on Jimmy Kimmel and demo’s on Jessica Alba

October 29th, 2008

Neil Strauss on Jimmy Kimmel talks about his book THE GAME with Jimmy and Jessica Alba

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Scotland’s Top PUA

October 23rd, 2008
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Scotland’s Top PUA List - 2007

1/ IceDragon
Not only has this Scottish mPUA got extremely tight game, he is constantly setting up new projects and innovating. Apart from his legendary FRs, arguably, no-one has done more to further the interests of the Scottish Community than IceDragon during the past three years.

2007 was undoubtedly his year. Organising Scotland’s most successful seduction seminar, and joining Alpha Interactions as an instructor, IceDragon is going from strength to strength, and is giving no hint of letting up in 2008.

Using his connections to bring the cream of UK seduction to Scotland, the whole Scottish community wouldn’t be where it is without IceDragon, and the Scotland Lair would not be Scotland’s biggest pickup forum today.

Voted Scotland’s Top PUA by his peers in 2006, and the only mPUA in the UK to run weekly seduction workshops, it looks like IceDragon will at least be in the top six for years to come. Also named Scotland’s Top PUA by the List Magazine.

2/ Ciaran
Formerly known as Dr Jekyll, Ciaran has one of the strongest inner games I have seen. He has a natural style, and like IceDragon, but on a smaller scale, he is also constantly innovating, developing his ‘Shock and Awe’ style. He is now working as an instructor for a commercial pickup company, Real Social Dynamics (RSD). The reason Ciaran lost out to IceDragon for first place is due to the fact that although the strength of his game can be argued to be as good as IceDragon’s, he hasn’t contributed to the development and furtherance of the Scottish community as IceDragon has. However, 2008 can be Ciaran’s year, provided he continues developing new material, and contributes to the development of the Scottish community as a whole.

3/ Mist
Mist played a key admin role in the old lair , and the Scottish community are grateful for the resources he has provided, to further our knowledge. Mist became an Alpha Interactions instructor in 2007, and got great reviews from the students that he taught. With incredible field skills and powerful inner game, Mist fully deserves to be in the top 3 PUA list.

4/ Staff
Vastly experienced in the skills of NLP and seduction, Staff has been the dark horse of 2007. Assisting IceDragon in establishing the Professional Player’s Club, he has evolved into a fine seduction instructor, and mentor to many beginners in the community. Staff’s innovative Amoging methods have been widely praised throughout the Scottish community (due to his military experience), Staff can open and hook any set, mixed or otherwise, instantly ‘destroying’ any other male presence, so that all the females are riveted to him. It has to be witnessed to understand. He was also there to pick up the slack when the Scotland Lair hit rock bottom and quickly set up the current forum early this year. It is highly probable that Staff will break into the top three by the end of 2008.

5/ Ajnabi
This guy has been involved with the community for years, training with the likes of Smoothguy. After a well deserved break, he has been back in the field, lecturing, giving infield training, etc. Watch this guy in 2008.

6/ Richie
One of the original members of the old Scotland Lair, former RSD instructor, hanging out with the likes of Loverboy and Hoobie, Richie is now back in the scene, helping out IceDragon with his innovative teaching methods. Slowly but surely, Richie’s old moves are coming back, and his hunger for teaching is returning.

7/ Demo
Edinburgh pickup artist and Alpha Interactions Approach Coach, Demo has instructed under Ciaran’s watchful eye, and is developing into a formidable force in Scotland. Still very young, but it is predicted that he will develop into Scotland’s premier pickup instructor within a couple of years.

8/ Oregon
Exciting new pickup artist to emerge from Scotland in 2007. Tight skills, and a high consistency level. He is in this list due to closing some of Scotland’s hottest FHM models.

9/ Buchy
Alongside Richie, this old school Scottish PUA is now coming back on the scene, helping out IceDragon at the PPC.

10/ Johnny Blaze
Has been very quiet during 2007 due to other commitments. However, Johnny Blaze started off the New Scotland Lair, has extremely tight game, and deserves a permanent place in the Scottish Top Ten. Hopefully we will see a lot more of Johnny Blaze in 2008, and he will come up with some new material. He made Alpha Interactions Approach Coach towards the tail end of last year, and hopes to instruct in his first Alpha Interactions bootcamp this year.

Other Scottish PUAs to watch out for, Buddha, MadMan, Junior and Yata

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IceDragon - Short Biography

October 22nd, 2008

I strongly believe that a perfectionist mentality should be maintained and the powerful ability to attract and seduce the most beautiful women in the world should be further developed throughout your life. 

Although I have recently diversified into lifestyle and coaching, my core art is the art of seduction, so I will begin from the beginning.

I first discovered the seduction community 3 years ago. I discovered I had a  natural ability to attract women, and it soon became apparent that I was different, I had this inherent, powerful ability to create instant attraction, and my skills astounded my friends, and word soon spread.

I encouraged guys to approach girls from the off-set, and could talk about seduction theory and philosophy for hours on end. I was invited to join the team of the original ‘Yahoo Group’ ‘New Scotland Lair’ (later known as the Scotland Lair). www.scotlandlair.co.uk/lifestyle is the latest version which was conceived by Staff, my friend and mentor who helped me launch the Professional Players Club.

As the forum developed and matured into the Scotland Lair, along with the increased activity and membership, so did my skills, reputation and relationships with my fellow seduction artists.

I organised lair lunches, weekly approach sessions, day seduction several times a week, one on one chats with other members, and I finally brought over a London seduction guru called James DeMarco, along with the world’s current number three pickup artist, AFCAdamLondon to Scotland as part of the ‘School of Seduction’ bootcamp, so that my community could benefit from the experience of top London seduction experts.

I had girls flying from as far away as Surrey and Barcelona, just to sleep with me. OK so what if they were air hostesses? ;-)

The big moment came when I was voted ‘Scotland’s Number 1 pickup artist’ by a narrow margin. Was this a blessing or a curse? I don’t know. Maybe I’ll find out in 10 years time. It was very close, and it could have gone either way. The guy who came second, soon left the community and settled down with a girl. The guy who came third emigrated to Australia.

This changed my life within the community. I remember once entering the ‘Mezzanine’ room of a local nightclub with a girl, where 20 PUAs were drinking, and immediately, I was surrounded by guys wanting to shake my hand, and ask me a barrage of questions. I distinctly remember being asked the best way to ‘create rapport’ and ‘where did you get that girl from, and how?’.

Some reviews I got from former students:

Before I met IceDragon, I was just out a 4-year relationship and felt insecure and sometimes unattractive. After meeting him and getting advice from him, I got more dates than I could handle. - Gordon, Clydebank

One night with IceDragon changed my social life. The guy has a power, energy and way of teaching/demonstrating/instructing that WILL change you for the better. I’m first hand evidence of this. - Steve, Glasgow

IceDragon knows it all . . . his knowledge is amazing. IceDragon has vast experience of trying this stuff out in the field, which is very rare. As we all know there are a lot of people talking about gaming but at the end of the day not doing much, Ice seems to be out there all the time really living what he reads and learns. - James, Glasgow

I went out one day with IceDragon down town . . . we ended up number closing two hot girls over on vacation in a Costa coffee shop! Name a set and he’ll approach it. He’s also a total expert in attraction theory. - Alan, Glasgow

IceDragon is a top instructor! – Tony, Oxford

IceDragon, we are proud of you dude. - Abhishek, New Delhi

I have seen IceDragon in field many times and spoken to him at great length about theories etc. Don’t miss the opportunity of learning from him. - Mark, Glasgow

Guys, you will have a lot of fun with IceDragon! - Leo, Beijing

Proactivity - work, work, work, work, work and . . . work - I emailed Mystery Method, enquiring about becoming an instructor, and got a telephone call from a guy called ‘Jeremy’, who said that my ‘CV’ looked impressive, but I had to take a Mystery Method bootcamp before they could consider me’. I replied that it was out of my price range, and that was it. Many months later, I got an email from MM, asking if I was able to help out ‘Tenmagnet’ at a London bootcamp. I jumped at the chance. I spent the next month, studying the entire Mystery Method in depth, and going out every night, working on my MM skills. My journal about my Mystery Method experiences will be available on this blog, very soon.

I was invited to another Mystery Method bootcamp, by Sheriff. It was another amazing weekend, where I left with a lot of experience, and made friends with more top guys in the seduction community.

I had a great time working with Tenmagnet, Cajun and Masters, so I was feeling buoyed. I was bitten by the teaching bug, so I arranged Scotland’s first SUPER SEMINAR, inviting top PUAs from London, Dublin and Holland. Matthew from Holland, DeepVertigo from Dublin and Gem from London turned up.

Seeing how successful our seminar was, the Central England Lair in Birmingham decided to host their own ‘Birmingham Super Seminar’, and invited me to speak. I went down, and while I was down there, Craze and Gem from ‘Alpha Interactions’ officially offered me the position of instructor. We had talked about it by telephone prior to the Birmingham seminar, but it was cemented in Birmingham.

Since then, I travelled down to London for an Alpha Interactions Instructors Training Course, and last month, I taught at my first ever bootcamp in Glasgow.

www.alphainteractions.com

Alpha Interactions have described me as A cool calm and sophisticated member of the Alpha interactions team, it is no accident that Icedragon has been making waves and gaining widespread notoriety in the UK ‘Seduction Community’.

Icedragon is a true perfectionist his commitment to self improvement and lifestyle development have led him on a relentless journey - you name it he has tried it. Icedragon has worked alongside some of the biggest names in the dating business and brings to the team a fresh approach built on the strong foundations of structured interactions combined with delicate social micro calibration. Icedragon also incorporates many factors from his intensive martial arts training into his ‘game’ and exudes a vibe of powerful hidden confidence.

A warm and friendly mentor, Icedragon’s down to earth, non pretentious nature rarely fails to endear him to students. Icedragon will go out of his way to accommodate all and ensure optimum learning conditions regardless of your personal challenges. Icedragon is a solid rock of support for anyone feeling overwhelmed by the dating jungle.

So, that’s my story.

Lets work on developing your story, bring out your true potential, and make you the best seducer and man you can be.

IceDragon

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Craze’s Stripper Game Tips

September 29th, 2008

Dating Ladies may not be enough for those guys who want to date strippers!

Here are some quick fire tips from my friend and mentor, Craze, Director of Alpha Interactions.

I have witnessed him scoring with hot strippers, before my eyes. His tips will bring you success in Stripper Game.

Enjoy!

IceDragon

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1) Always have her open up to you as a real person not her stripper persona. You want to know Melissa not Mercedes.

2) Take away her sexuality in a way that shows you are attracted to her mind and not her body, if she tries to take the conversation to looks, street it away.

3) Do not be an ass, most strippers have spent their whole lives building themselves up on their sexuality and looks, do not say to them you find them unnattractive. If they ask, say, yeah your cute and quickly move on.

4) Don’t be afraid to touch them in a friendly way, you can get away with pull away kino.

5) when they decide to touch you, put your hands on hers and pay no attention to it. If she puts her hand on your knee, place yours on top and talk to your mates for a bit.

6) Only go for a dance with her when you have built a connection and she has earnt it. The dance should be a reward for her, not you.

7) If she gets pushy, tell her that she is cute when she is pushy and play a game with her, I tell you what if you can do this or that then we can go for a dance, but im keeping my shirt on, Im not that kind of stripper.

8) When you do go for a dance with her, try and keep eye contact, it is ok to grab a quick look at her fanny when she is not looking but you want to make it clear the dance was a way of saying I appreciate you spending time talking with me, she could have made a lot of money from other guys whilst talking to you.

9) Ask her about her life outside of the club, this will help her to disassociate you with “customers”

10) Do not expect to close on the first night, It is very very difficult to get a strong connection with a stripper.

11) Finally DO NOT make her feel like a slut by talking about her body, if she pushes her boobs up against you or similar say “Haha get those things out of my face”

Peace and Love

-Craze

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Pickup Girls during the day or night!

September 28th, 2008

You can Pickup Girls during the day or night. This is an awesome article by my friend ‘Soul’, who is an instructor for Love Systems.

Check it out!

IceDragon

1. Guys generally get more approach anxiety approaching girls in the daytime than they do at night.

People always think, “Isn’t it weird to approach girls in the day? Aren’t they busy? Aren’t they going to tell you to f*ck off?” The truth is it’s no less weird than approaching people you don’t know to talk to them in a bar. I used to think girls were going to react really badly, when in fact, they probably react better in the daytime than they do at night. At night, they expect guys to be drunk and hit on them, but in the daytime, it happens to them much less often and thus they are impressed by your confidence and willingness to take risks. Like all approach anxiety, the only way to overcome this is to man up and go open them!

2. Direct openers are much more necessary in Day Game than night game.

There are a lot of venue considerations in Day Game (see below), but in many situations, particularly in street game, it can come across as really bizarre to stop a random girl and ask her opinion on something. In a bar, you could feasibly be having a conversation with your mates, and want to ask someone nearby their opinion, but in the daytime it comes across as less congruent. Direct openers work fantastically well on the street, e.g. “Excuse me, I just saw you walking past and thought you looked absolutely beautiful! I know this is really forward of me but I just had to say hello. How are you?” Direct Openers are also massively important for moving sets. Contrary to what most people think, it is ridiculously easy to stop moving sets (most of my sets are girls walking past me), you just need to be committed enough to your Direct opener. When you open a moving set, stop, plant yourself right on the ground where you are and deliver the opener. Do NOT start moving as they are moving, wait for them to stop. If they don’t stop, it will be creepy to follow them.

3. Day Game involves a greater variety of venues than night game. These venues are mainly differentiated by the levels of Social Pressure they involve.

You have the streets (my favourite), cafés, bookstores, art galleries, college campuses etc. Every venue or situation is slightly different, so you will need to develop good social calibration so you don’t creep girls out. The biggest factor to be aware of is Social Pressure. The more other people can listen to your interaction with a woman, the higher the Social Pressure will be, and the more potentially uncomfortable the girl will feel. In high social pressure situations, your job is three-fold. First, don’t go too Direct, either open indirectly or tone down your Direct opener (e.g. “That’s a lovely dress, how you doing?”). Second, have a strong frame of feeling comfortable in the interaction. The strongest frame always wins: You feeling comfortable talking to her will make her relax. If you are nervous, she will start to feel uncomfortable. The truth is, feeling this comfortable only comes with time and practice. But remember, she can’t see how you feel inside, only how you act on the outside. Third, make her laugh. If you can tease her or otherwise make her laugh within the first thirty seconds of the interaction, she will instantly relax – the interaction is then suddenly a fun bit of banter with a stranger instead of being accosted by some creepy guy on the subway.

4. Super hot girls are MUCH easier to open in the daytime.

You know how the super hot girls get hit on a lot in bars and clubs? There is one reason why: Alcohol. It normally starts happening after everyone is liquored up. In the sober light of day (and without all their buddies to back up their testosterone levels), most guys are shit scared of the uber hottie walking down the street. They will gawp at her, but God forbid they summon the stones to go up to her and say hello. Direct game works really well in the daytime with super hotties. You’ll be surprised at how many of them will turn around to you and say, “Oh my God, that’s so nice of you, no one has ever stopped me on the street to say that!”

5. You can get into Comfort much more quickly in Day Game than night game.

The fact that you have approached her in the daytime already demonstrates a lot of value; if you went Direct (good on ya!), then this is even more pronounced. Attraction building should happen in a matter of minutes. As soon as she’s laughing and enjoying the interaction, stop thinking about attraction and start thinking about qualifying and building comfort. You’ll need to escalate things as part of this. The easiest way to escalate the interaction on the street is to ask her which way she is headed, and suggest that you walk with her for a few minutes to chat. You can add in a, “I don’t want go dress shopping or anything like that with you though – that would be kinda gay - so I’ll probably head off in a few minutes!” This works exactly like a false time constraint. You are reducing the pressure in the situation.

6. Day Game approaches are often less expected by women and can take them by surprise.

This is a double edged sword. On the one hand, as mentioned above it causes guys to have more anxiety when daytime approaching, and they sometimes equate the surprise that girls will get with her being weirded out. On the other hand, because she is surprised, you have just spiked her emotions and therefore, if you run the interaction well, this turns into a massive positive for you. Not to mention that fact that very rarely do guys approach women on the street, so when you do approach her she will be more impressed and more likely to remember you positively (therefore LESS likely to flake than a night game set). The best way to handle the surprise/shock factor she may experience (especially if you use a Direct opener) is to acknowledge the situation, e.g. “I know this is really forward of me… but I was going to regret it all day if I didn’t stop you and say hello,” or, “This is very bold of me, but I thought you looked absolutely stunning, and I don’t believe in letting opportunities pass you by.”

7. It is harder to get a Same Day Lay than a Same Night Lay.

The reason why this is true is because of logistics, not because of social conventions (which is what you might have expected). If your game is good enough, you can bend social conventions to your whim, but once you get good, the biggest problem you spend most of your time overcoming is logistics. The fact is, girls will tend to be more busy and in the middle of doing other things in the daytime, so often you will only be able to take a phone number, build some comfort, and then move on. However, this doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be on the lookout for Same Day Lays!! In the ideal situation, you meet the girl and take her on a series of venue changes than end up back at your place. More commonly, there will be an “interrupt”, where she has to go home to eat or meet friends etc. In these cases you can still try to get her to come out to a party with you that night. Guys, you need to get out of the mentality that Day Game is just about taking phone numbers: You are trying to seduce these women not just get their digits. Set up the instant date if you can (e.g. take her for a coffee, then a drink, then a walk, then your place), or arrange to meet her later that day if you can. As mentioned above though, this all depends on what else she has got going on that day. Welcome to the wonderful world of logistical management!

8. You often have less time to demonstrate value to the girl than in night game.

Some girls you open will be in a rush to get somewhere, just about to meet friends, or may not have the time or inclination to talk to a random (albeit fun and interesting) stranger in the middle of the day.  Because you are not in a bar, chances are she is not going to see you talking to other people (i.e. no opportunity for social proof). In the daytime therefore, you typically have a very small window of opportunity to make a good first impression: You must present yourself as well as humanly possible. Leave the house ready to meet women. Wear nice clothes, style your hair, and wear good shoes (don’t wear your tatty trainers, homeboy). All of these things will encourage her to response positively to her when you stop her in the middle of the street.

9. Groups of women seem more difficult to approach even though they really are not.

It is not true that you can’t run Direct Game on groups of women, and it is not true that you can’t open groups of women in the daytime. Your strategy with a group should be either to pull all of them to another venue with you (typically again, there will be an interrupt, but you can invite them somewhere later that night), or to open the girl you want, build some comfort with the whole group (so they approve of you and allow you to pick up the girl you want), and then start escalating with your chosen girl. Escalation in front of the group might be as simple as taking her number, finding out some stuff about her and qualifying her a little.

This of course is not everything there is to know about Day Game, but I’ve covered some of the most salient points here that I think a lot of people miss about this fine art.

The most important thing guys, is to take action. I have sarged with so many people who excel in night game, but choke in the daytime. You need to be willing to take action TODAY, not tomorrow, not the day after. Procrastination is the world’s greatest sin. You will find that once you force yourself to open a few daytime sets, your skills and experience in other areas will rapidly transfer across. It’s just being willing to burst through that barrier.

Day Game for Newbies

Doing Day Game can be scary at first. Here’s a few tasks to ease you into it if you’re having trouble.  These tasks are progressively harder, but will demonstrate to you that people are a lot friendlier and pleasant in the daytime than you might expect. Rather than complicate it with group sets at this point, start off with women who are by themselves.

• Ask 5 beautiful women, “Excuse me, do you know what the time is?”
• Ask 5 beautiful women, “Excuse me, do you know where the nearest coffee shop is?
• Ask 5 beautiful women, “Excuse me, do you know where the nearest men’s fashion store is? [She replies]. Oh thanks, I’m trying to get some new shirts. You’re very well dressed, do you have any tips for me?”
• Tell 5 beautiful women, “Excuse, I just saw you walking past and I thought you were really cute, I had to stop and say hello. How are you?”

After you’ve completed these tasks, you are ready to move onto standard transitioning and attraction building etc.

Good luck fellas!

Soul

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Pickup Girls - Setting up a first date in a Hotel Room!

September 27th, 2008

A Scottish Pickup Artist, Platinum King, wrote this article. Teaches you how to Pickup Girls and bring them back to your hotel room.

IceDragon

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This is a technique which I have used time and time again with consistent success.

In order for it to work, first of all, you need to believe 100% in what you are saying, and have an ultra strong frame, so don’t come moaning to me if it backfires. Work on your own frame and try again till you get it right. Maybe it only works for me, but, I’ll tell you guys about it and you can choose what you want to do.

First of all, you have to have a good connection with the girl, build lots of comfort on the phone, build trust and commonalities.

What I then do is this. I tell the girl that I want to spend some one on one time with her. I tell her that I don’t want to watch a movie for a couple of hours just so that I can spend some time with her, I don’t want to go for a meal, or sit in a bar, with other people, and sit in one place. I don’t have a car, and I don’t have my own place. I don’t want to walk about in the cold streets of whatever town she chooses to meet.

I tell her that I’ll book a hotel room, and we can go there and sit, talk and get to know each other.

Intitially she will not want to go along with the idea, as her ‘anti-slut defence’ comes into play, so you have to be ready, sharp and counter it with lightening fast, kick ass responses.

You say “I’m comfortable with myself, and I can trust myself not to do anything, is it me you don’t trust or is it yourself? Are you scared you’ll be unable to control yourself? You know you’re well enough to know you’re not in the presence of a serial killer or some mad rapist, so it must be yourself you don’t trust?”

She will give you some more shit tests and bullshit. So, you just joke and say something like “Why, don’t you find me attractive, do you think you will be able to control yourself?”

Eventually, if your frame is strong enough, she will crumble and agree to meet you. Women love a man who knows what he wants, and who lives in his own reality. She will want to enter your reality. After all, you’re only going to the hotel room to talk in privacy, and really get to know each other. At the back of her mind she knows the two of you will have sex. Only, under the pretext of talking with no distractions, in a calm, private environment.

Women want sex more that men.

But, it should not be their fault. She must not appear to be a slut, at any cost.

She will appreciate the fact that you think she is special and you want to spend quality time with her alone, without any distractions.

I’ve brought you this far, and if you can’t get a fuck-close out of this situation, it’s your own fault.

p.s. this may only apply if one does not have a motor vehicle to park up and talk in or a residence which he can take her to. Also, it is crucial that you make her aware that if she was being invited to his premises she wouldn’t feel as bad. As we all know, a hotel room has a stigma attached to it. Try to take the ’stigma’ out of the hotel room. The hotel room is a substitute for your own place.

Make yourself believe this. This is vital. Go out and Pickup Girls.

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Dating Ladies Success - 10 Things you can Do!

September 26th, 2008

If you want to be successful at Dating Ladies, read this! This amazing article, written by my friend, Soul, will seriously improve your dating life. Soul can be contacted at: soul@lovesystems.com

Soul is a lead instructor for Love Systems, and he is based in London.

Hi Guys,

I just came back from the Real Man Conference in Amsterdam, where I gave a kicka*s speech on utilising your emotions when dealing with your inner game and dating women. When you’ve been around for a while, you have a tendency to look at things from a bigger perspective and wax philosophical about underlying principles in social interactions, your own internal processes and those of women.

With that in mind, today I’d like to do the opposite and offer my top ten practical tips for guys who are fairly new to dating science or those who are reaching serious plateaus in their game. Implement these and I personally guarantee you that you will see improvements in your overall life as well as in your success with women.

1. Stop reading all dating forums for two weeks. Bar yourself from reading, writing, or replying to any posts on any internet dating science forum. You will discover that time spent working on yourself is more valuable that arguing, debating or defending any aspect of dating science.

2. Get a brand new haircut or hairstyle. Chop it, style it, dye it. Do something to it to make it look different to how it is now. I recommend going to a good stylist (ask friends with good hair for recommendations). Your friends will have mixed reactions to it (most people don’t like change), but women will react positively to it.

3. Pick one skill that’s not dating that you can commit to getting better at, e.g. hip hop dancing, thai boxing or cooking. Find a good class for it and commit to going at least once a week.

4. Start reading a GREAT novel (I recommend Shantaram, Atlas Shrugged or Musashi) and carry it around with you whenever you are out and about. It gives you an excuse to sit in a café and chill (with plenty of opportunities to speak to women around you) and can even get women opening you if they recognise the book.

5. Book a weekend trip away to a city that you’ve heard great things about (my personal favourites are Stockholm, Barcelona and Riga). Grab ONE friend if you can or go by yourself. Don’t go with more than one person otherwise you’ll have a tendency to “hang out” with each other instead of actively talking to new people and meeting women. Talk to every remotely attractive woman you see from the moment you get to the airport. You can find cheap flights if you sign up to budget airline newsletters; use couchsurfing if you want to get free accommodation.

6. Book a longer two-week or month-long break to somewhere on another continent, e.g. Asia. Travel ALONE. The life lessons you will learn from doing this are worth at least three months of social interaction on your home turf (where you have the safety net of friends, your local bars, your culture etc.). You’ll have to plan this one a few months in advance. Dip into your savings if you have to – that’s what they’re there for.

7. Every time you talk to a girl for longer than 5 minutes in the daytime, ask her out to do some activity with you in the next few days (even if it’s just “grabbing a drink to find out more each other”).

8. Every time you talk to a girl for longer than 30 minutes in a bar or nightclub, ask her to come to another bar/place for food with you that you know nearby

9. Every time you are on a date with a girl and it lasts for over 90 minutes, ask her if she’d like to have another drink back at your place (assuming you picked a date spot that is close to your place).

10. The next ten times someone asks you to do something, go somewhere, or help them out with something, say “Yes.” You will get into some crazy and uncomfortable situations, but will learn a lot from the experiences and have some great stories to tell afterwards. Making bad decisions is healthy once in a while. Disclaimer: I am not responsible for anything that may happen to you as a result of being a “Yes Man”.

Soul

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Dating Ladies - The Internet Might Not Always Tell the Truth!

September 25th, 2008

When Dating Ladies online, be very careful when the girl shows you her picture! haha!

http://www.officialdatingresource.com/dating/beware-the-dreaded-myspace-angles-pics/

IceDragon

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