Dating Ladies

I have always got a real buzz from coaching the guys in the art of pick up and seduction but something was missing. Took a while to realise it had been too random and without real structure unless it was a scheduled bootcamp.

I then came up with the PPC (Professional Players Club) concept.

www.professionalplayersclub.com

Drawing from my experience teaching and sitting on grading panels in the martial arts, I had formulated a way to drastically improve the standard of [b]YOUR [/b]game.

Time and time again, my email inbox and mobile phone is bombarded with messages from guys saying ‘hey Ice, up for some daygame this week?’.

Sometimes I meet up with a guy, sometimes I don’t, depending on how busy I am or the mood I am in.

When I do meet someone, after the initial half-hour of approach anxiety, etc, we make some progress. Then I don’t see the guy again for months. The standard is back to square one. There is no consistency, and that is what pains me.

It hurts me when I see guys at the same standard now as they were 6 months ago.

It’s not their fault, in order to perfect a skill, be it the martial arts or the venusian arts, repeated practice is needed on a consistent, committed basis.

Ever heard the story of the hare and the tortoise? Well I want you to be the tortoise - ultimate winners.

Bootcamps are great - short bursts of intensity, but after they are over, then what? It’s like going to a martial arts seminar and expecting to be able to deliver the goods.

Wouldn’t it be great to have a Venusian Arts Club, like we have Martial Arts Clubs or Gym Memberships?

A weekly committment which we HAVE to fit into our schedule, come hell or high water.

So, I had decided to set up the ‘Professional Player’s Club’. Staff was a key player both in setting up the website and as an instructor.

The Professional Players Club concept

Why do students of martial arts improve and blast through their sticking points, throughout the world?What if they only trained once every 2 months? Would they make the same progress?

No of course they would not!

I proposed getting together a select group of committed and enthusiastic guys, who I would teach the game to for two hours per week, EVERY WEEK.

Make no mistake, they were pushed as hard, if not harder than I push my martial arts students. I have personally seen and taught beginners in the martial arts to a high level, I was expecting to see my first three black belts promoted in spring 2008.

I wanted you to gain your black belt in seduction.

Staff, Chance and I taught the guys as a normal class, starting with good warmup routines, repeated practice, correction, wash, rinse, repeat, until their body language, tonality and gestures were those of a professional pick up artist. The guys were monitored and given feedback, demonstrations were performed, similar to martial arts class.

Each week was progressive, and was in the students best interests to ensure adequate attendance. Most of the guys were regular attenders.

They were also give homework assignments to complete.

The program was developed to ensure you to push yourself, and force consistency plus continual and steady improvement.

The Professional Players Club ran successfully for several months but was too demanding on my time as in full time study, working part time etc. I had the framework of an e-book simmering away and realised that would be a more efficient way to share my knowledge and with a bigger audience. Real Attraction Secrets was underway……..

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Regarding techniques to pickup women, here is a great article I stumbled upon.

Some of you will know that when it comes to meeting and dating women, I am very particular about work I recommend, and I have to say, I am really impressed by the way Justin Goff writes. He’s concise and straight to the point.

I particularly like his optimistic and positive attitude.

Enjoy and go out to pickup women!

How To Pickup Women - Pick Up Girls Tonight!
By [http://ezinearticles.com/?expert=Justin_Goff]Justin Goff

Most people find picking up a girl very common among men who are inexperienced or asking a girl out for a date for the first time. The fact is that it is not easy to approach a woman. It takes a lot of courage and the appropriate action to approach a girl and expect positive results.

You need to take several things into consideration. Here are some of the things you need to keep in mind when it comes to picking up a girl.

a)    Practice optimism:

Women usually have an aversion to pessimists. They don’t like people who don’t have a positive and pleasant approach to life. Believe in all positive and beautiful things in life, practice optimism and display it too. You should put a great and natural smile on your face. Get rid of that smirk. This will go against you. Your sunny smile and humorous jokes will definitely impress your girl.

b)    Use what you have:

Don’t fret over things that you do not possess. This will make you appear desperate. It would be better that you feel happy about what you have and display it with pride. If you don’t find anything worth displaying, you may take you cute and cuddly dog out for a walk. Who knows a beautiful girl will pass by and get impressed with the dog you own. This will automatically lead to a good conversation between you and your girl.

c)    Humor:

Girl love to laugh and you should find some good humor to make them do so. Laughter is the best medicine and this medicine will attract women towards you with less efforts and time. You need to make your woman laugh any time and any place. Once you do this you have already won the battle.

d)    Don’t expect rejection:

What most men do is expect rejection when they come to know that the woman they are approaching is hot and beautiful. This is wrong. When you expect rejection, you are attracting negative powers to yourself. This means that you are expecting failure. Be positive see positive things happening to you.

e)    Grab the interest:

If you see a woman interested in establishing a conversation with you, then you have already made her like you. Now, you require focusing on getting into a conversation that she may hold some interest in. It can be a general topic or a situation. Try to listen to her and let her realize that you have something interesting to tell her.

f)    Respect her:

This is very important. You need to respect your woman in order to make her interest in you. Remember that a woman will not be interested in a man or sleep with someone who doesn’t respect her. You should make her realize that you are genuinely interested in her company and she would like to be with you.

To sum up, picking up a girl is not as difficult as you think it is. A little effort from your side will do the trick.

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When Dating Ladies, one of the most common mistakes that men make when talking is… talking!

Let’s face it – men, by their very nature, are aggressive. They like to be heard. They like people to listen. They like everyone to think that they are the best example of the human species on the planet. They like to show off. They like everyone to hear about how great they are. And, if there are women in the near vicinity, men are especially keen that the women hear about just how wonderful a man they are.

This is all very well when it comes to a bunch of lads on-the-town on a Friday night – but it’s actually a hindrance when it comes to meeting a girl for the first time, and trying to strike-up a conversation with her.

Just imagine the situation – you’re sitting there, opposite one of the most beautiful women you have ever seen, in a restaurant where a starter costs twice the price of a main course down at your local pub, and you start talking about how great you are. And you keep going. And keep going. Eventually you pause for breath. She smiles, and excuses herself to go and “powder her nose”. She gets up, and walks away. And keeps going. And keeps going. Right out of the restaurant. Right down the street. Into a taxi, and on to her flat. And that’s it. You’ve blown it. If only you’d shut-up for 30 seconds to actually listen to what she had to say for herself, she might still be sitting there with you right now…

The key to holding a conversation with someone you’ve just met – either walking down the street, or on a blind date in a restaurant, or wherever – is remembering that there are two people involved in a conversation. Conversations are, by their very nature, a two-sided process. Those that are one-sided are called “speeches” or, even worse, “lectures”…!

By listening to what the lady has to say for herself, you’ll help her relax and start earning some of her respect. Here are some Top Tips for listening:

- Eye contact is important. If you’re not looking at her, she’ll think you’re not listening! However, don’t just sit there and stare at her – that will put you into the “psycho” category.

- Question her. You can use the just the boring stuff like “What have you been up to today?” and “What do you do for a living” to start the conversation, but keep the questions by getting a bit more detail. So, she’s had a bad day at work - does she usually enjoy her work? She’s thinking of getting a new car – has she a specific one in mind, or is she planning to test drive some? Obviously, you can’t just sit there and fire questions at her every 3 seconds – moderation is the key!

- Listen to what she has to say, and don’t rush-in with your opinions. “I was at the dentist today”, she says. “I hate dentists,” you reply, “because theyre all stuck-up, rip-off merchants”. “My brother is a dentist” comes her reply, right before the door closes behind her and you never hear from her again.

Just remember – the key to talking is to listen to what she has to say, and take an interest in what is she saying. Don’t just keep waiting for your own turn to speak – or youll find yourself having to make conversation with yourself very quickly. Good luck successfully Dating Ladies!

IceDragon

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When it comes to Dating Ladies, A lot of nonsense is talked in the pickup community about not buying girls drinks, flowers or taking them out for dinner. Period. Or, only taking them out for dinner after you’ve slept with them.

These extreme ‘rules’ were originally set in place for complete beginners who had no experience with Dating Ladies, and especially after a lot of guys read the best selling book by Neil Strauss, the Game.

If guys paid for meals etc, that would lead to vulnerable men being taken advantage of, by a certain type of girl, and trying to ‘buy acceptance’ demonstrates lower value and women are not attracted to lower value men.

In essence, the reasoning behind not paying for dinner on dates is not to look supplicating or to look as if you’re trying to win the girl over.

However, if you know you are the prize, and she knows that you are a secure, alpha male, then there is no harm in paying for the meal.

Whatever you do, if you do it from a position of strength, you will get away with anything.

Women want to be romanced and courted by a real man. A man who will protect them and provide for them and their children.

Be that real man.

If you can’t afford to pay for the meal, don’t take her out to a restaurant. Go for another fun date instead, to a bar, pool, maybe a romantic walk to a park.

Expecting a woman to pay half is a turn off.

Don’t risk looking like a cheap skate when Dating Ladies!

IceDragon

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Dating Ladies need not be complicated.

Not knowing what to say is a problem every guy has faced when approaching or Dating Ladies. A tip for you. Instead of thinking of it as ‘talking to a woman’, reframe it in your own mind as ’starting a conversation’.

Starting a conversation should be very natural.

The key here that good conversation is fun. Remember, conversation links people together, and it is the single most important factor in establishing human relations. So, why be so afraid to start a conversation?

In interactions with women you don’t know, you must take the lead. Most people feel inadequate in talking to others. However, you are different from most people. You are men who are empowered with the support of this community.

Conversation, in my opinion, is the art of self-expression. This is your opportunity to tell the world how you feel, let off steam and assert your individuality. Don’t give a damn about what response you may or may not get. Say what you feel, to whom you feel. You don’t need anyone’s permission to talk to them, because you do what you want, when you want.

Think of conversation as therapeutic, like gardening, fish-keeping, painting. It is an art which you will master, with practice, practice, practice and. . . . practice.

Do not worry too much about false openers, and routines. By all means, have a couple stashed away in your head, if you can’t think of anything else, but be observant when you meet a strange woman.

What is she holding? What kind of clothes is she wearing? What kind of mobile phone has she got? These questions can tell a lot about a woman.

Here is an example of what I did at a bookshop once. I was looking at some books, and this girl walked passed me, I said ‘stop’, she stopped and looked at me, then I said ‘you nearly got away there, and I would have lost my chance to talk to you’. She smiled and turned back. I asked her what she did, and then I stopped her before she answered and said ‘wait, let me guess – you’re a psychology student’. She said that I was right, and then asked me how I knew. She had a ‘psychology book in her bag’.

These observational conversation starters can be used in any environment.

With this particular girl, I got her phone number her very easily.

So, try out these tips in future, when Dating Ladies.

IceDragon

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I mean, some of them are not really players but I believe their methods are not effective. I wouldn't blame people for calling them players. Why would you call yourself a pickup artist? On the show, I think some of the girls that fall for the guys are actors. Sadly, for the guys. So what do you guys and girls really think of these so- called pickup artists. There are some lines that make sense. Some. Others would get a slap in the face, wouldn't you think? I mean, if I had to give advice to some guy, I would just tell him to be calm. Heck, I'll even teach him. Oh crap, that would make me a "pickup artist". Anyways, what do you think about this whole artist thing and do you think it's as effective as the show protrays it to be?

I think the methods taught *are* largely effective, if they are executed well. Also, keep in mind that not every guy on the show is coming in with the same level of skill; the guys who already can relate to women seem to be developing faster than the guys who are totally nervous, confused, etc.

Ultimately, the best way to determine if the methods work, is to go out and try them yourself. Go practice one technique 50 times, and see what the general results are. Once you've tried the material out, keep the things that work for you, and discard the rest.

The whole "pickup artist" moniker does several things– it gives the guys a certain mystique with women, it makes them more interesting to men who aspire to do better with women, and the business aspects aren't too shabby, either. However, the techniques are grounded in practical experience, and they do work. The only downside is that there are other considerations when meeting and attracting women, that Mystery does NOT cover, and these are more important in getting long-term results, relationships, etc.

That's my $0.02 worth.

Hey yall…I want to become a pickup artist.. someone give me some tips.. and don't say buy this book.. give me advice.. thanks..

Mate you can't learn this stuff, you are just born with it.

I liked a ton of their clothes lol. It's actually on right now but by the time anyone sees this it will have been last night. Yeah so does anyone know? Or another cool online store? Even if you have no idea what I'm talking about, I'm always up for some online shopping. You can sit on your ass and get new stuff at the same time.
I'm watching it right now i just missed that part sorry