Dating Ladies

I strongly believe that a perfectionist mentality should be maintained and the powerful ability to attract and seduce the most beautiful women in the world should be further developed throughout your life. 

Although I have recently diversified into lifestyle and coaching, my core art is the art of seduction, so I will begin from the beginning.

I first discovered the seduction community 3 years ago. I discovered I had a  natural ability to attract women, and it soon became apparent that I was different, I had this inherent, powerful ability to create instant attraction, and my skills astounded my friends, and word soon spread.

I encouraged guys to approach girls from the off-set, and could talk about seduction theory and philosophy for hours on end. I was invited to join the team of the original ‘Yahoo Group’ ‘New Scotland Lair’ (later known as the Scotland Lair). www.scotlandlair.co.uk/lifestyle is the latest version which was conceived by Staff, my friend and mentor who helped me launch the Professional Players Club.

As the forum developed and matured into the Scotland Lair, along with the increased activity and membership, so did my skills, reputation and relationships with my fellow seduction artists.

I organised lair lunches, weekly approach sessions, day seduction several times a week, one on one chats with other members, and I finally brought over a London seduction guru called James DeMarco, along with the world’s current number three pickup artist, AFCAdamLondon to Scotland as part of the ‘School of Seduction’ bootcamp, so that my community could benefit from the experience of top London seduction experts.

I had girls flying from as far away as Surrey and Barcelona, just to sleep with me. OK so what if they were air hostesses?

The big moment came when I was voted ‘Scotland’s Number 1 pickup artist’ by a narrow margin. Was this a blessing or a curse? I don’t know. Maybe I’ll find out in 10 years time. It was very close, and it could have gone either way. The guy who came second, soon left the community and settled down with a girl. The guy who came third emigrated to Australia.

This changed my life within the community. I remember once entering the ‘Mezzanine’ room of a local nightclub with a girl, where 20 PUAs were drinking, and immediately, I was surrounded by guys wanting to shake my hand, and ask me a barrage of questions. I distinctly remember being asked the best way to ‘create rapport’ and ‘where did you get that girl from, and how?’.

Some reviews I got from former students:

Before I met IceDragon, I was just out a 4-year relationship and felt insecure and sometimes unattractive. After meeting him and getting advice from him, I got more dates than I could handle. - Gordon, Clydebank

IceDragon knows it all . . . his knowledge is amazing. IceDragon has vast experience of trying this stuff out in the field, which is very rare. As we all know there are a lot of people talking about gaming but at the end of the day not doing much, Ice seems to be out there all the time really living what he reads and learns. - James, Glasgow

I went out one day with IceDragon down town . . . we ended up number closing two hot girls over on vacation in a Costa coffee shop! Name a set and he’ll approach it. He’s also a total expert in attraction theory. - Alan, Glasgow

IceDragon, we are proud of you dude. - Abhishek, New Delhi

I have seen IceDragon in field many times and spoken to him at great length about theories etc. Don’t miss the opportunity of learning from him. - Mark, Glasgow

Guys, you will have a lot of fun with IceDragon! - Leo, Beijing

Proactivity - work, work, work, work, work and . . . work - I emailed Mystery Method, enquiring about becoming an instructor, and got a telephone call from a guy called ‘Jeremy’, who said that my ‘CV’ looked impressive, but I had to take a Mystery Method bootcamp before they could consider me’. I replied that it was out of my price range, and that was it. Many months later, I got an email from MM, asking if I was able to help out ‘Tenmagnet’ at a London bootcamp. I jumped at the chance. I spent the next month, studying the entire Mystery Method in depth, and going out every night, working on my MM skills. My journal about my Mystery Method experiences will be available on this blog, very soon.

I was invited to another Mystery Method bootcamp, by Sheriff. It was another amazing weekend, where I left with a lot of experience, and made friends with more top guys in the seduction community.

I had a great time working with Tenmagnet, Cajun and Masters, so I was feeling buoyed. I was bitten by the teaching bug, so I arranged Scotland’s first SUPER SEMINAR, inviting top PUAs from London, Dublin and Holland. Matthew from Holland, DeepVertigo from Dublin and Gem from London turned up.

Seeing how successful our seminar was, the Central England Lair in Birmingham decided to host their own ‘Birmingham Super Seminar’, and invited me to speak. I went down, and while I was down there, Craze and Gem from ‘Alpha Interactions’ officially offered me the position of instructor. We had talked about it by telephone prior to the Birmingham seminar, but it was cemented in Birmingham.

Since then, I travelled down to London for an Alpha Interactions Instructors Training Course, and last month, I taught at my first ever bootcamp in Glasgow.

www.alphainteractions.com

Alpha Interactions have described me as A cool calm and sophisticated member of the Alpha interactions team, it is no accident that Icedragon has been making waves and gaining widespread notoriety in the UK ‘Seduction Community’.

A warm and friendly mentor, Icedragon’s down to earth, non pretentious nature rarely fails to endear him to students. Icedragon will go out of his way to accommodate all and ensure optimum learning conditions regardless of your personal challenges. Icedragon is a solid rock of support for anyone feeling overwhelmed by the dating jungle.

So, that’s my story.

Lets work on developing your story, bring out your true potential, and make you the best seducer and man you can be.

IceDragon

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If you want to be successful at Dating Ladies, read this! This amazing article, written by my friend, Soul, will seriously improve your dating life. Soul can be contacted at: soul@lovesystems.com

Soul is a lead instructor for Love Systems, and he is based in London.

Hi Guys,

I just came back from the Real Man Conference in Amsterdam, where I gave a kicka*s speech on utilising your emotions when dealing with your inner game and dating women. When you’ve been around for a while, you have a tendency to look at things from a bigger perspective and wax philosophical about underlying principles in social interactions, your own internal processes and those of women.

With that in mind, today I’d like to do the opposite and offer my top ten practical tips for guys who are fairly new to dating science or those who are reaching serious plateaus in their game. Implement these and I personally guarantee you that you will see improvements in your overall life as well as in your success with women.

1. Stop reading all dating forums for two weeks. Bar yourself from reading, writing, or replying to any posts on any internet dating science forum. You will discover that time spent working on yourself is more valuable that arguing, debating or defending any aspect of dating science.

2. Get a brand new haircut or hairstyle. Chop it, style it, dye it. Do something to it to make it look different to how it is now. I recommend going to a good stylist (ask friends with good hair for recommendations). Your friends will have mixed reactions to it (most people don’t like change), but women will react positively to it.

3. Pick one skill that’s not dating that you can commit to getting better at, e.g. hip hop dancing, thai boxing or cooking. Find a good class for it and commit to going at least once a week.

4. Start reading a GREAT novel (I recommend Shantaram, Atlas Shrugged or Musashi) and carry it around with you whenever you are out and about. It gives you an excuse to sit in a café and chill (with plenty of opportunities to speak to women around you) and can even get women opening you if they recognise the book.

5. Book a weekend trip away to a city that you’ve heard great things about (my personal favourites are Stockholm, Barcelona and Riga). Grab ONE friend if you can or go by yourself. Don’t go with more than one person otherwise you’ll have a tendency to “hang out” with each other instead of actively talking to new people and meeting women. Talk to every remotely attractive woman you see from the moment you get to the airport. You can find cheap flights if you sign up to budget airline newsletters; use couchsurfing if you want to get free accommodation.

6. Book a longer two-week or month-long break to somewhere on another continent, e.g. Asia. Travel ALONE. The life lessons you will learn from doing this are worth at least three months of social interaction on your home turf (where you have the safety net of friends, your local bars, your culture etc.). You’ll have to plan this one a few months in advance. Dip into your savings if you have to – that’s what they’re there for.

7. Every time you talk to a girl for longer than 5 minutes in the daytime, ask her out to do some activity with you in the next few days (even if it’s just “grabbing a drink to find out more each other”).

8. Every time you talk to a girl for longer than 30 minutes in a bar or nightclub, ask her to come to another bar/place for food with you that you know nearby

9. Every time you are on a date with a girl and it lasts for over 90 minutes, ask her if she’d like to have another drink back at your place (assuming you picked a date spot that is close to your place).

10. The next ten times someone asks you to do something, go somewhere, or help them out with something, say “Yes.” You will get into some crazy and uncomfortable situations, but will learn a lot from the experiences and have some great stories to tell afterwards. Making bad decisions is healthy once in a while. Disclaimer: I am not responsible for anything that may happen to you as a result of being a “Yes Man”.

Soul

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Pickup Girls - Yes, it is a skill.

The skill of seduction.

Like ANY skill, PICKUP CAN BE LEARNT.

Up to a point.

No one can be taught to be a brilliant pickup artist, just as no one can be taught to be a brilliant chess player. Brilliance requires talent. Whether any of us have the talent, is in the gift of God.

However, we can be TAUGHT COMPETENCE in pickup.

Competence is about not making errors.

We can be taught how not to make errors.

Simply that. No more complicated than that. No errors.

Just as most people can be taught to play chess, so too can they be taught the pickup game. An error-free chess sequence, like perhaps a youngster demonstrating the Sicilian Opening, will raise murmurs of approval, and generally cannot be critisised. The youngster may not be destined to become a brilliant chess player, but an error-free Sicilian is something most youngsters can be taught to play, even if a little woodenly.

In the same way, we can learn an error-free performance in the field.

But unlike the chess player, an error-free pickup is something more.

It is highly unusual.

Pickup without errors is no small achievement.

As with any skill, PRACTISE is what is necessary.

Reading articles and e-books will be perfectly useless in the absence of practise.

We learn pickup by doing.

So practise.

Practise. Practise. Practise.

The ideas you learn from articles are for trying out. If something does not work for you, form that opinion after you have tried it and not before. In the forums, there will be suggestions you disagree with, but what we must avoid is procrastination. TRY THINGS OUT, then relax, not beforehand.

Pickup should involve experimenting.

Regularly.

Trying to IMPROVE existing skills.

Trying to create NEW skills.

Dont’ sit around. Get up and do.

Practise in front of the mirror. Practise in front of friends. Practise to and from work in the quiet of your mind on the train. Think new ideas and in time have the courage to try them, and successfully Pickup Girls.

IceDragon

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Dating Ladies online is as easy as riding a bike and surfing the net, but lots more fun!

If I had to sum up my Dating Ladies Online method in one sentence, it would be, ‘Be different, spark attraction and be adventurous’. Leave the boring stuff to other guys, you are being trained in an online dating masterclass here!

Here are some top tips about online dating . . . tips the mainstream dating coaches won’t tell you!

I once did a mass email to girl’s ads saying ‘hey, quick question, who lies more, guys or girls?’. I got an astounding amount of replies (way more than if I’d said ‘hi, saw your ad, I’m what your looking for, so, what’s your favourite food? do you like staying in and cuddling on the couch over a pizza and a dvd and going out pubbing and clubbing?’ eurgggghhh!!!), which I then replied ‘well, I think . . . guys lie about small things like ‘no, your bum doesn’t look big in that’, while girls lie about bigger things like ‘it’s your baby’.

Then waited to see who would take the bait.

I have also said `you and I would not get along. ‘. They’re
like `why??!!’.

I have also used simply ‘You sound like trouble ‘, also I’ve used ‘my idea of fun is gardening, does your garden need doing?’.

To a girl who advertised for a prince, I wrote `yeah, I’ll date you in a tent, we’ll spend time drinking horse milk, eating mouldy cheese and fucking like mountain goats. Well, you wanted a prince! Oh, didn’t I tell you . . . I’m a Mongolian Prince. C’ya. Genghis Khan’.

Then I waited for the percentage who replied to that. I then
said ’so, what else do you do apart from pick up handsome strangers online’ or `what else do you do apart from tell bad jokes’. Again, a certain percentage replied to that. From the I built a rapport and comfort, met them for a drink.

The one about handsome strangers - imbeds the idea in her mind that you are handsome . . .

So, the point is, don’t waste too much effort initially, don’t bother sending photos and writing a long email telling her your life story. Keep her guessing, keep her wanting more, remain mysterious! Save some for later. Remember, as in a bar or club, use a quick, short opener if replying to adverts, but way better to have your own ad.

When you start getting into exchanging emails with girls, try to add them to your MSN list, so that you can chat quickly. Even better, number-close them, then game them over a phone. Meet up with them BEFORE you fall into the fatal friendship zone.

Guys, I’m revealing gold here, from personal experience, which
enabled me to meet many women online. It will give you the edge and make you stand out from all the other guys who send long emails detailing their entire auto-biographies . . . who cares?!

If anyone wants to see my personal emails, let me know. I’ll post them here. I will need to start saving my drafts, cos some are right crackers.

However, back to the topic. Like I was saying, I prefer putting up my own ad rather than replying to girls ads, because girls (especially hot ones) get 100s+ of replies from guys A DAY (I know this, as I have spent time researching and experimenting), and most replies get deleted without even being read. So, save your time and energy, keep it short and sweet.

This way you can use your time efficiently.

Here’s a great, free dating site you can try out Plenty of Fish.

p.s This can even work in chatrooms. You can go in, let your presence be known on the entire board, and girls will start to private message you.

Guys, I once messaged this girl in a chatroom and got her to tell the main message board that I was handsome, she did, and all the girls started PMing me. This got me even more attention from other girls!

Inevititably, some ass-hole will try to put you down. This is what you want, so that you can counter him and win over the entire chatroom female populace. Same as in real life situations.

Also, you can hit individual girls by saying ‘Hey, quick question, who lies more, guys or girls?’. A lot better than ‘hi, wanna chat?’ or ‘hey there sexy, asl?’.

When they respond, you’re in. Game on!!!

Check out UK Chatterbox for example (or search for an alternative chat room in your home country).

Good luck successfully Dating Ladies!

IceDragon

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Regarding techniques to pickup women, here is a great article I stumbled upon.

Some of you will know that when it comes to meeting and dating women, I am very particular about work I recommend, and I have to say, I am really impressed by the way Justin Goff writes. He’s concise and straight to the point.

I particularly like his optimistic and positive attitude.

Enjoy and go out to pickup women!

How To Pickup Women - Pick Up Girls Tonight!
By [http://ezinearticles.com/?expert=Justin_Goff]Justin Goff

Most people find picking up a girl very common among men who are inexperienced or asking a girl out for a date for the first time. The fact is that it is not easy to approach a woman. It takes a lot of courage and the appropriate action to approach a girl and expect positive results.

You need to take several things into consideration. Here are some of the things you need to keep in mind when it comes to picking up a girl.

a)    Practice optimism:

Women usually have an aversion to pessimists. They don’t like people who don’t have a positive and pleasant approach to life. Believe in all positive and beautiful things in life, practice optimism and display it too. You should put a great and natural smile on your face. Get rid of that smirk. This will go against you. Your sunny smile and humorous jokes will definitely impress your girl.

b)    Use what you have:

Don’t fret over things that you do not possess. This will make you appear desperate. It would be better that you feel happy about what you have and display it with pride. If you don’t find anything worth displaying, you may take you cute and cuddly dog out for a walk. Who knows a beautiful girl will pass by and get impressed with the dog you own. This will automatically lead to a good conversation between you and your girl.

c)    Humor:

Girl love to laugh and you should find some good humor to make them do so. Laughter is the best medicine and this medicine will attract women towards you with less efforts and time. You need to make your woman laugh any time and any place. Once you do this you have already won the battle.

d)    Don’t expect rejection:

What most men do is expect rejection when they come to know that the woman they are approaching is hot and beautiful. This is wrong. When you expect rejection, you are attracting negative powers to yourself. This means that you are expecting failure. Be positive see positive things happening to you.

e)    Grab the interest:

If you see a woman interested in establishing a conversation with you, then you have already made her like you. Now, you require focusing on getting into a conversation that she may hold some interest in. It can be a general topic or a situation. Try to listen to her and let her realize that you have something interesting to tell her.

f)    Respect her:

This is very important. You need to respect your woman in order to make her interest in you. Remember that a woman will not be interested in a man or sleep with someone who doesn’t respect her. You should make her realize that you are genuinely interested in her company and she would like to be with you.

To sum up, picking up a girl is not as difficult as you think it is. A little effort from your side will do the trick.

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Dating Ladies is so much fun. What’s more fun, however, is finding them, and the ‘thrill of the chase’, so to speak.

Sometimes, I feel like a hunter, lean, powerful, focused. Smooth, sophisticated and charming.

So, I parked my car in a student campus area yesterday morning, using my brother’s university parking permit.

I went for a walk and decided to find some girls to chat to.

I spoke to 5 girls, and got 6 phone numbers.

Ok, I made it very easy for myself. I approached girls in a campus (full of hot, foreign student chicks), as opposed to the slightly difficult downtown, where people walk fast, look down, and go about their business, and this is what I did.

I walked, making eye-contact with everyone, and smiling.

Here is the important bit. I only spoke to the girls who smiled back.

The only girl I didn’t close was one who didn’t speak English, but I managed to close a hot Japanese girl called Fumi . . . *swoons* (called her today and left a message, she called me back, but I was on the phone to a friend from London, so didn’t take the call as bros before hoes!)

Anyway, try this, make eye-contact, smile, open, then game as normal.

You will have no problems in getting phone-numbers, be very friendly, actually don’t ask for the number, tell them to give it to you, and make it as natural as possible.

Have fun with this and enjoy Dating Ladies.

IceDragon

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When Dating Ladies, one of the most common mistakes that men make when talking is… talking!

Let’s face it – men, by their very nature, are aggressive. They like to be heard. They like people to listen. They like everyone to think that they are the best example of the human species on the planet. They like to show off. They like everyone to hear about how great they are. And, if there are women in the near vicinity, men are especially keen that the women hear about just how wonderful a man they are.

This is all very well when it comes to a bunch of lads on-the-town on a Friday night – but it’s actually a hindrance when it comes to meeting a girl for the first time, and trying to strike-up a conversation with her.

Just imagine the situation – you’re sitting there, opposite one of the most beautiful women you have ever seen, in a restaurant where a starter costs twice the price of a main course down at your local pub, and you start talking about how great you are. And you keep going. And keep going. Eventually you pause for breath. She smiles, and excuses herself to go and “powder her nose”. She gets up, and walks away. And keeps going. And keeps going. Right out of the restaurant. Right down the street. Into a taxi, and on to her flat. And that’s it. You’ve blown it. If only you’d shut-up for 30 seconds to actually listen to what she had to say for herself, she might still be sitting there with you right now…

The key to holding a conversation with someone you’ve just met – either walking down the street, or on a blind date in a restaurant, or wherever – is remembering that there are two people involved in a conversation. Conversations are, by their very nature, a two-sided process. Those that are one-sided are called “speeches” or, even worse, “lectures”…!

By listening to what the lady has to say for herself, you’ll help her relax and start earning some of her respect. Here are some Top Tips for listening:

- Eye contact is important. If you’re not looking at her, she’ll think you’re not listening! However, don’t just sit there and stare at her – that will put you into the “psycho” category.

- Question her. You can use the just the boring stuff like “What have you been up to today?” and “What do you do for a living” to start the conversation, but keep the questions by getting a bit more detail. So, she’s had a bad day at work - does she usually enjoy her work? She’s thinking of getting a new car – has she a specific one in mind, or is she planning to test drive some? Obviously, you can’t just sit there and fire questions at her every 3 seconds – moderation is the key!

- Listen to what she has to say, and don’t rush-in with your opinions. “I was at the dentist today”, she says. “I hate dentists,” you reply, “because theyre all stuck-up, rip-off merchants”. “My brother is a dentist” comes her reply, right before the door closes behind her and you never hear from her again.

Just remember – the key to talking is to listen to what she has to say, and take an interest in what is she saying. Don’t just keep waiting for your own turn to speak – or youll find yourself having to make conversation with yourself very quickly. Good luck successfully Dating Ladies!

IceDragon

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When it comes to Dating Ladies, A lot of nonsense is talked in the pickup community about not buying girls drinks, flowers or taking them out for dinner. Period. Or, only taking them out for dinner after you’ve slept with them.

These extreme ‘rules’ were originally set in place for complete beginners who had no experience with Dating Ladies, and especially after a lot of guys read the best selling book by Neil Strauss, the Game.

If guys paid for meals etc, that would lead to vulnerable men being taken advantage of, by a certain type of girl, and trying to ‘buy acceptance’ demonstrates lower value and women are not attracted to lower value men.

In essence, the reasoning behind not paying for dinner on dates is not to look supplicating or to look as if you’re trying to win the girl over.

However, if you know you are the prize, and she knows that you are a secure, alpha male, then there is no harm in paying for the meal.

Whatever you do, if you do it from a position of strength, you will get away with anything.

Women want to be romanced and courted by a real man. A man who will protect them and provide for them and their children.

Be that real man.

If you can’t afford to pay for the meal, don’t take her out to a restaurant. Go for another fun date instead, to a bar, pool, maybe a romantic walk to a park.

Expecting a woman to pay half is a turn off.

Don’t risk looking like a cheap skate when Dating Ladies!

IceDragon

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Dating Ladies need not be complicated.

Not knowing what to say is a problem every guy has faced when approaching or Dating Ladies. A tip for you. Instead of thinking of it as ‘talking to a woman’, reframe it in your own mind as ’starting a conversation’.

Starting a conversation should be very natural.

The key here that good conversation is fun. Remember, conversation links people together, and it is the single most important factor in establishing human relations. So, why be so afraid to start a conversation?

In interactions with women you don’t know, you must take the lead. Most people feel inadequate in talking to others. However, you are different from most people. You are men who are empowered with the support of this community.

Conversation, in my opinion, is the art of self-expression. This is your opportunity to tell the world how you feel, let off steam and assert your individuality. Don’t give a damn about what response you may or may not get. Say what you feel, to whom you feel. You don’t need anyone’s permission to talk to them, because you do what you want, when you want.

Think of conversation as therapeutic, like gardening, fish-keeping, painting. It is an art which you will master, with practice, practice, practice and. . . . practice.

Do not worry too much about false openers, and routines. By all means, have a couple stashed away in your head, if you can’t think of anything else, but be observant when you meet a strange woman.

What is she holding? What kind of clothes is she wearing? What kind of mobile phone has she got? These questions can tell a lot about a woman.

Here is an example of what I did at a bookshop once. I was looking at some books, and this girl walked passed me, I said ‘stop’, she stopped and looked at me, then I said ‘you nearly got away there, and I would have lost my chance to talk to you’. She smiled and turned back. I asked her what she did, and then I stopped her before she answered and said ‘wait, let me guess – you’re a psychology student’. She said that I was right, and then asked me how I knew. She had a ‘psychology book in her bag’.

These observational conversation starters can be used in any environment.

With this particular girl, I got her phone number her very easily.

So, try out these tips in future, when Dating Ladies.

IceDragon

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